5 thoughts on “urbanunder”

  1. This is pretty, not as pretty though as you home page. It was Klee who is quoted as saying that a line is a point that went for a walk. On your home page there is such a line.

    I have only come to peep in, because I got the flu back, and yesterday it was bad. So I have to be careful, because I don’t want to take antibiotics.

  2. This might be of interest/help:

    “…The Beautiful and the True in art do not exist; what interests me is the intensity of a personality transposed directly, clearly into the work; the man (woman) and his (her) vitality; the angle from which he (she) regards the elements and in what manner he (she) knows how to gather sensation, emotion, into a lacework of words and sentiments…”

    Tristan Tzara 1896-1963 Romanian poet and essayist.
    From: “Lecture on Dada” [1922], translated from the French by Robert Motherwell, *Dada Painters and Poets*, by Robert Motherwell, New York.

    In the quote above Tzara was speaking about art in general terms and was coming at the subject from a writer’s point of view. Whereas art can be experienced as beautiful..erm… pretty..? it’s primary “job”, if you like, is to tell us about the human condition.

    The visual artist tries to do this without the use of words; mostly.

  3. But the question is what I can remember. If I see a picture or read a text and 24 hours later cannot recall what it was, there was nothing.

    The theory that you quote above sounds too wordy. That kind of writing is normally subsidized by the universities and related establishments. Then compare that kind of text to what is being printed, written, and read by “the people”.

  4. I understand a line better than colour, but I remember your things from the colour, not as well though as that one line on your home page and the lines of the avatar.

  5. Sorry if I am confusing you Cantueso …

    I suggested looking at the Tzara DaDa text as one possible way of understanding where (the roots of) Modernism, Post Modernism (in the Arts today) stem from – what most of us just lump together and call “Modern Art” . As with any subject, discovering where it comes from and why it is what it has become, is pretty fundamental to knowing about what’s happening around you in that subject today… In this sense the Arts are no different from say…. a general study of mathematics.

    No, I don’t think Tzara is too wordy. As I understand the text he, as many others, before and after, was endeavouring to describe some (pretty impenetrable) theories about art process I.e. the making of artworks and/or the thinking about the making of them. He was doing this at a particularly turbulent point in the history of the twentieth century, which is I think significant – and no, of course I agree, this is not an easy subject to discuss…. I simply quoted it as a good example of how very difficult it is to use words succinctly regarding descriptions of art/people’s experience of art in general. If it helps fine – if not never mind.

    What you remember (about a line, rather than a colour) is your personal experience Cantueso, and as such, is absolutely fine and valid. If you think about more closely, what your response does, is that it tells you about yourself as well as about a particular work of art at a certain point in time – it links you to the work you are looking at, and also to the mind of the person who made it. (If you get no response it may be due to a number of understandable and different reasons.. but you certainly get “your money’s worth” from looking at art when you give yourself time to reflect on what is in front of your eyes :)!) Also, as I have said previously, very rarely, if ever, is a person’s response to an art work a question of what is a “correct” response or what is an “incorrect” response. (Mostly….Art just sits there and is available to everybody… nobody needs to be bothered by it if they don’t want to be).

    I can’t see what else I can say on this subject… Apart from thank you for your comments.

    NB. If anyone else wants to join in here please feel free to do so.

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